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MINUTES of a Meeting held at Woldingham
Village Hall on 28 August 2008 at 7.30pm.
Present: Bobby Johnson (in the chair) Nigel Cohen Rodney Fuller Nicola
Howe
Sally Marks Alistair Pirie
1. Apologies: Cllrs Barton, Meekings and Myers, Karen Newman (Clerk)
2. Minutes.
The Minutes of the meeting held on 31 July had been circulated and were
signed by the Vice-Chairman as a correct record.
3. Declarations of Interest
Cllr Johnson - Company Secretary of Woldingham Magazine
Cllr Fuller - Land east of Church Road
Cllr Marks - Member of another authority - Surrey County Council
Cllr Pirie - Westgarth, land east of Church Road
4. Matters arising
The following points arose in discussion of the Action List:
Slines Oak island: The brickwork was in a much worse state than previously
thought and it was agreed that rebuilding is necessary, that WPC should
write to David Poole (SCC Highways) about the issues arising, and that
quotations for the work should be sought in the light of his response.
Signage: Cllr Cohen will review quotations received with Jeff Jeffrey
and bring a proposal forward at the September meeting.
Overgrown hedges: Action had been promised by Woldingham Golf Club and
it was agreed that WPC should write to follow this up. It was agreed that
Cllr Fuller and other councillors will carry out a survey of relevant
roads to identify problems so that owners can be asked to take specific
action.
Dead Beech Tree: This is at the view point. It was agreed that Cllr Fuller
will chase up action and report in September.
Barrier at view point: Action is urgently needed since illegal dumping
is taking place. It was agreed that Cllr Fuller would pursue this with
TDC since maintenance of the site is their responsibility. A letter should
be sent to them.
Village Hall opening hours: Following action by Cllr Marks, suggestions
on a sign giving information on opening times and access at other times
and about additional keys are to be discussed at the next meeting of the
Hall's Executive Committee.
TDC's Standard Planning Conditions: These had been obtained and circulated
by e-mail to all members.
Maps of drainage: These have been obtained and copies will be made available
to Cllrs Johnson, Myers and Pirie.
Letters: had been sent to thank Julie Moylan and Sue Edwards for organising
the Parish picnic, to Caroline Batterbury in support of the application
for adoption of Croft Road, and to TDC about the station car park.
Bus stops: SCC have acknowledged that there have been delays in replacing
damaged bus stops, caused by glitches in their systems, but have promised
that the work is now imminent.
5. Planning Matters:
a. A copy of Appendix A was circulated to all members before the meeting.
Cllr Johnson read through Appendix A. The Council voted to ratify the
recommendations of the Planning Group.
b. Infringements: An infringement report from TDC in response to WPC's
usual request was circulated to members before the meeting. This was reconciled
with the full list of enforcement cases on TDC's website, and proposals
were agreed on which cases on the latter list should be added to the request
to TDC for the next update.
6. Finance:
a. Payments: The payments as Appendix B were signed and approved.
7. Highways & Rights of Way:
a. Highways Monitoring and Reporting:
Blocked drains were reported outside the former shop on the Village Green,
on The Ridge (3 or 4, but especially the two by Southfields Road and the
letter box), the last two at the bottom of Station Road and at the junction
of Bridleway 92 and Slines Oak Road. The pond at the top of Slines Oak
Road also overflows down the road. Cllr Marks agreed to take these points
up with SCC.
John Osborne's kind offer to deal with the problem of an overhanging
branch over the path on the Village Green was gratefully accepted.
8. Reports:
Cllr Barton had reported briefly by e-mail about LORD. LORD seeks the
participation by district council represntatives in proposed Freight Quality
Partnerships between SCC and freight companies, and Cllr Marks agreed
to contact Cllr Barton to clarify whether the proposed Tandridge local
government representative should be at SCC or TDC level, and who it should
be.
9. Miscellaneous Matters:
a. Airports: Cllr Johnson reported that Alan Simmons had not received
feedback from Flightpath on his report about the meeting he and Cllr Myers
had had with Biggin Hill Airport management (see July minutes), but he
had drawn attention to the article headed "Runway Success" in
"Management Today" which largely replicated his report. Alan
emphasised the nature of the problem for Woldingham: BHA still has huge
capacity to increase flight numbers when most other airports are at full
capacity, and is Britain's fastest growing airport. Other points mentioned
were that:
1. Boris Johnson is to be asked for his official view on whether BHA should
be expanded (Livingstone was against this). It was agreed that WPC should
write to Boris Johnson.
2. There is to be an important vote by Bromley councillors early next
week on a new development which could result in a large increase in helicopter
traffic at BHA.
3. Flightpath would like a WPC representative to join their steering committee.
It was agreed that Cllr Myers should be asked to undertake this role,
on the basis that Alan Simmons could be his alternate if that was acceptable
to all concerned.
b. Station Car Parking: A response is awaited from TDC to the letter sent
by WPC. Cllr Barton reported by e-mail that other aspects of this issue
will be progressed in September, since it has not been possible to hold
the necessary discussions in the holiday period.
c. School Parking: In Cllr Barton's absence nothing to report.
d. WAG: Cllr Pirie advised that the report by transport consultants to
be considered at the Tandridge Local Committee meeting on 5 September
was helpful, since it recommended against both the one-way proposal on
Chalk Pit Lane and the suggested haul road up to the Ridge. A prioritised
list of other measures, close to WAG's thinking, was recommended for implementation
when resources permit. Cllr Johnson advised that she had written to other
Parish Councils so that they can make their contributions.
e. Cold Calling: PCSO Harris-Ross has submitted an application to Trading
Standards. TDC's reply on whether planning permission is needed for the
signs is awaited.
f. Litter pick on 27 September: It was agreed that Cllrs Marks and Barton
will allocate roads to councillors, for them to recruit helpers, and review
the relevant points in the risk assessment. Cllr Marks will take action
to secure the first aider required for this event.
g. Northdown Road footpath: Cllr Marks reported that the path is owned
by SCC Highways, who had inspected the site and provided initial comments.
Given their resource constraints, SCC do not attach priority to improvement
of the path, but their ownership has consequences for any action for improvement
by WPC. After discussion of options the Council resolved in principle,
subject to cost, to proceed with a project to improve the part of the
path which does not yet have a tarmac surface and the section up to the
seat (some 120 metres plus the replacement of existing paving leading
to the seat). To progress this, it was agreed that WPC should write to
Derek Poole (SCC Highways) to seek his advice, pointing out that this
is a community project which WPC wishes to carry out at minimum cost,
and to invite him to a site meeting to identify all the issues to enable
the necessary quotations to be obtained. Cllr Howe offered her experience
of managing tendering processes to deal with the relevant aspects when
WPC is ready to proceed.
h. Grants: Cllr Johnson drew attention to the timetable for finalising
the precept (WPC's November meeting) and the need to identify deserving
recipients for grants and take decisions on grants to be made before that
deadline. The previous list and some other village organisations were
considered, and it was agreed that members would encourage deserving village
organisations to apply for grants with appropriate supporting information.
i. Maintenance of the View Point: Following a suggestion made before the
meeting, it was agreed that WPC should write to TDC to remind them of
their responsibility for this and the need for them to arrange appropriate
action on it.
10. Meetings to attend:
Tandridge Local Committee at 10.15 am on 5 September at Oxted Community
Centre (consideration of report on "Highway Considerations for Oxted
Chalk Quarry Traffic").
11. Correspondence:
1 letter had been received this month regarding the footpath on Northdown
Road.
A letter had also been received from Mr. John O'Brien, and the Council
resolved to continue the established policy of not responding to correspondence
from him.
12. Any Other Business:
a. Diary: All Councillors completed diary dates for September 2008.
b. Cllr Fuller will pursue with Michael Batterbury the long awaited detailed
map to assist WPC's work on planning and other issues.
c. Cllr Fuller noted that Long Hill had been maintained by Caterham and
Warlingham UDC in the distant past. It was agreed that Cllr Pirie would
check the status of Long Hill in the 1987 Inspector's Report on roads
in Woldingham and report at the September meeting.
Meeting ended at 9.32
1 member of the public present
Before the meeting:
John Osborne noted that TDC were shown as responsible for maintaining
the View Point in a 2006 TDC document. While volunteers had in practice
been doing this job, he asked WPC to write to TDC to remind them of this
responsibility and the need for them to arrange appropriate action on
it.
John also said he would be willing to attend a site meeting about the
footpath on Northdown Road if that would be helpful.
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